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#457539 - 21/03/12 09:53 PM Should The Smiths reform?
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Would you agree with what the organiser of the Reading and Leeds Festivals says below?

Taken from that other magazine... grin

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The organiser of the Reading And Leeds Festivals has said he hopes The Smiths never reform as it would "destroy their legacy".

The beloved indie band split in 1987 and have batted away suggestions about a reformation ever since, with guitarist Johnny Marr recently joking to NME that he will only reform The Smiths if the current UK government steps down.

Melvin Benn, chief executive of organisers Festival Republic, has said that he would not be excited at the prospect of a reunion of the band and would be against it happening at all.

Asked about this, Benn told NME: "I think if The Smiths reformed it would destroy their legacy personally. Iím sure grown men would cry if it happened but I wouldnít want to see them reforming."

Then asked if he had any qualms about Oasis reuniting, Benn said that he did not and he would happily book them again.

Speaking about this, he replied: "Hopefully there will come a day when Oasis do the same [reunite] but I hope it doesnít come too soon. Oasis were just one of those bands where you walked away feeling happy. It was very rare you could go and watch Oasis and not have a great time. Whether we wait until 2015, 2020 or 2040 I donít know, but it'd be nice if it happened at some point."
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#457540 - 21/03/12 10:02 PM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: Mean Mr Mustard]
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#457542 - 21/03/12 10:06 PM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: furstnamesirname]
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#457543 - 21/03/12 10:14 PM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: Dr-Filth]
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#457546 - 21/03/12 10:55 PM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: Mean Mr Mustard]
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I think Morrissey has been doing a pretty good job of not destroying but sporadically urinating on 'the legacy' in recent years. I see rust.
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#457550 - 21/03/12 11:41 PM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: Fingerprince]
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No. But Slade should.
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#457552 - 21/03/12 11:59 PM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: mamaloochie]
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I do not understand the destroy legacy shit. If they want to do it and the fans will go for it, why not? They don't sound or look like they used to. Who gives a damn? Do you look and sound like you did when you were 25?
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#457554 - 22/03/12 12:39 AM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: coachmaddog]
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Originally Posted By: coachmaddog
I do not understand the destroy legacy shit. If they want to do it and the fans will go for it, why not? They don't sound or look like they used to. Who gives a damn? Do you look and sound like you did when you were 25?



I agree. I have a rule now.

You can be 'a voice of a generation', 'a tortured poet', a political firebrand', 'a misunderstood outsider'; all these things but...

if you've appeared on Top Of The Pops, you're also an entertainer.
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#457555 - 22/03/12 01:09 AM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: furstnamesirname]
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Originally Posted By: furstnamesirname
Is rock dead?

This one's a bit prone....

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#457569 - 22/03/12 08:45 AM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: coachmaddog]
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Originally Posted By: coachmaddog
I do not understand the destroy legacy shit. If they want to do it and the fans will go for it, why not?

On behalf of the fans, we don't want it. Johnny-come-latelys might think it's a good idea, but they're wrong.
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#457580 - 22/03/12 10:54 AM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: dlgladwin]
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They should do it with Paul Rodgers on vocals.
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#457584 - 22/03/12 11:12 AM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: Ad Jetsonic]
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#457586 - 22/03/12 11:19 AM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: fuzzy]
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#457587 - 22/03/12 11:19 AM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: dlgladwin]
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...or How Soon Is All Right Now?
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#457590 - 22/03/12 12:19 PM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: dlgladwin]
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HOW SOON IS ALL RIGHT NOW

There she stood in the street,
dancing her legs down to the knees
I said "A-hey, what is this?"
Now baby maybe, under the iron bridge we'll kiss.

I said "A-hey, what's your name, baby?
Maybe pretty girls they make graves.
Now don't you wait or hesitate.
Let's move Ė it's time to stretch out and wait."

All right now, take me out tonight right now.
All right now, heaven knows Iím all right now.

Let me tell you now...

I took her home to my place,
right there by the cemetry gates.
She said, "Look, what's your game, baby?
Are you really really so strange?"

I said "Slow, don't go so fast."
(Sad sound of a train going past)
She said "Love, lord above,
a murderous desire for love!"

All right now baby, in a coma now.
All right now babe, I know itís over now...
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#457592 - 22/03/12 01:08 PM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: dlgladwin]
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It doesn't really matter anymore, surely, now that everyone from The Trashmen to Hue And Cry are doing it. There's someone from evey era of rock out on the boards again, or there's current bands who are aping on of those eras. In the obviously very final days of rock music, Ideas about 'legacy' 'relevance' or 'authenticity' are so fuzzy that they're essentially meaningless.
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#457598 - 22/03/12 02:08 PM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: Mystic Mutt]
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It's not about authenticity or legacy, or any of those things. It's about not wanting them to spoil it.
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#457600 - 22/03/12 02:15 PM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: dlgladwin]
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But that's my point. 'Spoiling It' is the absolute norm, and so far everyone's joined in in 'spoiling it' There's no bloody point in complaining that The Stone Roses have ruined their legacy and then buying a ticket. Which is what everyones obviously done.
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#457601 - 22/03/12 02:18 PM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: Mystic Mutt]
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So they should do it because everyone else is doing it? That's never a good reason.
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#457602 - 22/03/12 02:22 PM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: dlgladwin]
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Well, that's not what I said. I said that whether they do or don't, it's essentially meaningless.
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#457603 - 22/03/12 02:24 PM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: Mystic Mutt]
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Well, obviously it only matters to those to whom it matters.

But to us, it matters a lot.
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#457604 - 22/03/12 02:29 PM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: Mystic Mutt]
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Remembr your age. too. If say, The Monks played locally, I'd go and see em, and I'm sure a load of their 60s fans would see it as sacrilege. But most Smiths fans today weren't around in the 80s. You're relating the bands value to you own personal history, rather than their value in a wider sense.
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#457607 - 22/03/12 02:41 PM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: Mystic Mutt]
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I said as much in my first post. These young uns should find a band from their own period to care about, instead of latching onto something from the past. By all means investigate the records and enjoy the music, but don't expect them to roll out on tour for you, because you missed that. You'd look silly in your old man's trousers, so what are you doing with his record collection?
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#457608 - 22/03/12 02:50 PM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: dlgladwin]
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Yep, I'd agree with that. But as the whole of rock music is essentially a redundant pastiche, it's difficult to expct the kids to prefer the current crap over the old good stuff. And, given the way they consume pop, it's obvious that a lot of the time they're barely aware of the temporal difference. They don't necessarily define music 'new' and 'old' any more. It's all just stuff on youtube.
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#457609 - 22/03/12 02:54 PM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: Mystic Mutt]
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Well there you are then, kids - if you're daft enough to be reading this instead of going out into the sunshine for some fresh air and exercise - it's all on YouTube, so don't pay over the odds to boost the pension pots of fat old has-beens.
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#457618 - 22/03/12 03:59 PM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: dlgladwin]
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I see no reason why Morrissey and Marr couldn't play together at some point - rather like Page & Plant in the 90's. Make half the set new songs and you'd avoid it being wholly nostalgia or 'spoiling the legacy' - which, to be honest, is a bit of a nonsense anyway.

Indeed, this may be the only way as I can't see Morrissey ever working with the other two.

That your two main players are on somewhat distant, but essentially good terms (so we are lead to believe), means it would be a huge waste of their obvious chemistry should they never play together again.

I'm yet to speak to anyone who thought Page, Plant, Jones and Bonham Jnr in any way 'spoilt' their legacy in 2007.
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#457619 - 22/03/12 03:59 PM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: dlgladwin]
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Originally Posted By: dlgladwin
so don't pay over the odds to boost the pension pots of fat old has-beens.



It's about the music, man....not the waistlines.
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#457622 - 22/03/12 04:14 PM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: D W Washburn]
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Originally Posted By: dlgladwin
so don't pay over the odds to boost the pension pots of fat old has-beens.



It's about the music, man....not the waistlines.


Thank feck for that! smile
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#457623 - 22/03/12 04:21 PM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: Ad Jetsonic]
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#457624 - 22/03/12 04:30 PM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: D W Washburn]
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Believe me, I've seen Greg Lake live...


My roll* model.


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#457625 - 22/03/12 04:36 PM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: dlgladwin]
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Originally Posted By: dlgladwin
I said as much in my first post. These young uns should find a band from their own period to care about, instead of latching onto something from the past. By all means investigate the records and enjoy the music, but don't expect them to roll out on tour for you, because you missed that. You'd look silly in your old man's trousers, so what are you doing with his record collection?


I've never understood that logic. I never wanted to rebel against the past, my parent's record collection or anyone else's parents record collection. I just wanted to rebel against pap.

Why should these young uns find a contemporary band to care about, we certainly didn't*. Most of us here were babies (except 'arry) when most of MOJO rostra started their careers. On that token, then we shouldn't be allowed to listen to new bands. Or use the social network.

* Reminded me of a New Years Eve night I went to in the early 90s. It was at a nightclub and they had booked a Blues Brother tribute act. All the teenagers were going crazy to it, bouncing up and down with grins on their faces.
A miserable friend looked on in disdain, "Look at those wankers. What do they know about the Blues Brothers? This is our music not theirs. Our era. They should stick to their shitty rave." He moaned into his beer.

I pointed out to him he wasn't even born when Green Onions was originally released and that The Blues Brothers didn't invent soul in 1979.

"Still ours, though". he humphed
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#457651 - 22/03/12 08:27 PM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: Fingerprince]
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I'll tell you one thing: if the young uns don't find any contemporary music to devote themselves to, then in a few years there won't be any argument about whether popular music is dead.
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#457652 - 22/03/12 08:29 PM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: D W Washburn]
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Originally Posted By: D W Washburn
it would be a huge waste of their obvious chemistry should they never play together again.

So basically you're saying that The Smiths wasn't enough.

That's just ungrateful.
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#457658 - 22/03/12 09:07 PM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: dlgladwin]
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Originally Posted By: dlgladwin
I'll tell you one thing: if the young uns don't find any contemporary music to devote themselves to, then in a few years there won't be any argument about whether popular music is dead.


But they do, don't they? If all this urban music clogging up the charts and Adele's record sales are anything to go by?
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#457667 - 23/03/12 03:06 AM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: Fingerprince]
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#457688 - 23/03/12 11:14 AM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: Mystic Mutt]
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#457691 - 23/03/12 11:28 AM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: Fingerprince]
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Whoever says that The Smiths should reform shall be severely spanked by me with a wet plimsoll.
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#457703 - 23/03/12 01:38 PM Re: Should The Smiths reform? [Re: dlgladwin]
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Originally Posted By: D W Washburn
it would be a huge waste of their obvious chemistry should they never play together again.

So basically you're saying that The Smiths wasn't enough.

That's just ungrateful.


Perhpas 'waste' was the incorrect word then. It would be shame if they decided never to work together again. But hey-ho.
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